You are offering wise responses. I am impressed. I don't think you need scientists to care about what you have to say. Science serves this realm. We are here to accomplish some purpose chosen from the other realm. And I doubt that your purpose is to be restrained by scientists.

Wade

soffty wrote:
ya but i am so overwhelmed by scientists criticizing spirituality and taking one sided pose that i try to show that spiritual technique really works. see how dawkinse, hitchens and sam harris had done to spirituality.

soffty wrote:
Hi, Wade:

I can answer your question right now - honestly and fully: "I don't know." That would have been my answer two years ago, and I fully expect it will be my answer two years from now. That is the truth. With all respect, I find no value in you or anyone else preaching that I or anyone else has to do this or do that, or that this is the case or that is the case. I find such statements express a dogmatic and judgmental attitude anathema to the spiritual truth I believe we all share - We don't know. I joined here today with a hope that maybe, together, we can better figure It All out - something I might add is the pure purpose of "science" too. In my opinion, "science" doesn't "lie," people do, and most often they do to themselves.


David

David, that is why I posted that question...to get that answer. What would happen if a person devoted their entire life to seeking truth? That person gave up on society and what it offers, and instead, cleared a path for truth to present itself?

To do that we would have to discover and learn, and it would start with science, as you said. The science does offer us truth in plain sight, and we don't care as a species. Why? EGO.

What is ego? It is the result of basic science. It starts with the construction of the atom.

So david. Do you want to know more, or do you already know. or do you have a better idea?

Remember, I offered you the chance to know the truth. Or at least to deny that my decade of seeking truth found it. What I have found in the last two years is that far less than 1% cares enough about truth to seek it. Again...why? Ego.

All you have to do is ask.

Wade

soffty wrote: You have it backwards. Science is the result of ego. The physical is a projection of our mind. To know Truth seek not to master the physical. Seek to master your mind.
soffty wrote: I deny it.

Ok man. This is getting beyond being a concept. It is outright illustartion of ego. Science is not the result of ego. Everything that is true is science. The factors that limit our spirituality are science. The ability to travel down the path of light after death is science.

And please, if you want to illustrate my statements, use more than 3 words. When you have 10K readers of your books, and have powerful enemies who want to get rid of you, and when you have given up material existence for your beliefes, then post a thread that actually makes a difference.

I am a fan of yours. I want nothing more than for you to show me you are awesome. You get angry because a thread is hindered? It doesn't go your way and you are the leader? A leader is defined by what he is leading. Lead something awesome. Be awesome. Get me to say how awesome you are.

Now that is a goal far more worthy than playtime on a forum.

Wade